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Re: Where from here? Do I go??
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 14 December 19 13:20 GMT (UK) »
A tree on ancestry shows James John s father as Gottleib Wentzell from foreign parts
And son   correction
brother Andrew middle name as Gottleib

Baptisms can give extra information .

Are you interested in going back as far as possible or finding what became of the children. Which one are you focussing on ?
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Re: Where from here? Do I go??
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 14 December 19 13:57 GMT (UK) »
There is a marriage of ELizabeth Thornton age 18 to Richard houseago 1866

Father Richard Thornton

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Could that be yours ?

I would think the step children did revert to original name but mother may have kept her married name or married legally later .

That's all I can add
Others are better at searching than me but Elizabeth's maiden name may help you search for them
Good luck
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Re: Where from here? Do I go??
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 14 December 19 14:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Thank you for your time/effort Brigidmac, much appreciated. I at least have something to work on.
         Regards Just J
Maycock LAMBETH 1700-1960's
Burcham NORFOLK ??/LAMBETH 1700 - 1960's
Wentzell CRIPPLEGATE/SOUTHWARK 1700-1960's
Sadler CAMBERWELL / LEWISHAM 1700 - 1960's
Elliott WALWORTH / 1700 -1960's
Lepine FRANCE/KENT/WALWORTH/1550's-1950's
Barnes DORSET / WALWORTH
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Re: Where from here? Do I go??
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 14 December 19 14:38 GMT (UK) »
I have just been fiddling about looking at Wentzell, found who might be the daddy of them all

Augustine Wentzell born circa 1760 ??

Plenty of info on Ancestry
I wonder if Charles, 7
George 5
Philip 3 on 1851 were orphans?

Family trees on Ancestry

Found 1 baptism
Philip Thomas 26/12/1847
St Alphage Greenwich
Born 05/12/1847
parents Charles John and Elizabeth

Louisa Maud

Census information is Crown Copyright,
from  www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London


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Re: Where from here? Do I go??
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 14 December 19 15:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Thanks for the info LouisaMaud, Augustine Wentzell, we have been / are aware of this Wenttzell. He and a Gottleib we beleive they were Brothers. This is what the family have been working on to find which of the Brothers we are connected to, Thanks again, Just J



Maycock LAMBETH 1700-1960's
Burcham NORFOLK ??/LAMBETH 1700 - 1960's
Wentzell CRIPPLEGATE/SOUTHWARK 1700-1960's
Sadler CAMBERWELL / LEWISHAM 1700 - 1960's
Elliott WALWORTH / 1700 -1960's
Lepine FRANCE/KENT/WALWORTH/1550's-1950's
Barnes DORSET / WALWORTH
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Re: Where from here? Do I go??
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 14 December 19 15:21 GMT (UK) »
What about familysearch.org

Louisa Maud
Census information is Crown Copyright,
from  www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: Where from here? Do I go??
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 14 December 19 17:06 GMT (UK) »
Louisa.s find of maiden name
Guiver for ELizabeth is the best clue to looking for the step family

As first wife died 1855 the youngest children might be the best to follow ... were they children of Maria or Elizsbeth

As for next step following Wentzlers  I see you have lots of threads about other family members

It would be great if you could do a summary of ALL findings so far and add links to other threads.
So people who are helping don't look for things that have already been found .

Do you know what foreign parts Gottleib and Augustine came from.

Maria Wentzell is on  ancestry 27 trees( which is yours ? ) noone has a death or marriage for her .
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Re: Where from here? Do I go??
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 14 December 19 17:09 GMT (UK) »
I am sure Maria emigrated,  pity there are no ships logs online, well not that I have found so far

Louisa Maud
Census information is Crown Copyright,
from  www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: Where from here? Do I go??
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 14 December 19 17:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Thank you for your assisstivce,
My posts of today at 8.49 and 9.21 have the split of Maria and Elizabeth's children, and the 1861 Census Ref. No. if these are of any help. Thanks again. I'm not back until tomorrow ??
   Regards Just J


Maycock LAMBETH 1700-1960's
Burcham NORFOLK ??/LAMBETH 1700 - 1960's
Wentzell CRIPPLEGATE/SOUTHWARK 1700-1960's
Sadler CAMBERWELL / LEWISHAM 1700 - 1960's
Elliott WALWORTH / 1700 -1960's
Lepine FRANCE/KENT/WALWORTH/1550's-1950's
Barnes DORSET / WALWORTH
Roberts GLAMORGAN,WALES