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S S Carl - sank July 1918
« on: Wednesday 17 December 08 18:04 GMT (UK) »
A distant relative, Emlyn HARRY died on the 7th July 1918 on board the S S CARL according to the CWGC site.

We would welcome any information at all about the ship, on board which he served as a signaller RNVR - and died aged 18.

Many thanks in anticipation

Arranroots  ;)
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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: S S Carl - sank July 1918
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 17 December 08 18:22 GMT (UK) »
Just a snippet (assuming it's the same ship) http://www.rootschat.com/links/053o/  and a possible service record if you wanted to take that route http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/rnvr.asp

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Re: S S Carl - sank July 1918
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 17 December 08 18:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi both   :)

Seen this, Arranroots? No idea if it's the same ship, as you can imagine...  :P   
http://warsailors.com/forum/read.php?1,43959,43971#msg-43971
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Re: S S Carl - sank July 1918
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 17 December 08 18:37 GMT (UK) »
Fantastic!!

Thank you both.  Casa we have downloaded the service record which tells us that the vessel was Danish, so that sounds as though it might well be the same as the record Tati found.

One happy cousin here!

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: S S Carl - sank July 1918
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 18 December 08 00:29 GMT (UK) »

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Re: S S Carl - sank July 1918
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 18 December 08 00:57 GMT (UK) »



Hi  !  :D

If you have a magnifying glass - you'll be able to see his name on the Plymouth Naval Memorial !

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=13294496

In Memory of
Signalman EMLYN HARRY

Wales/Z/4604, S.S. "Carl.", Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve
who died age 18
on 07 July 1918
Son of Daniel Harry, J.P., and Catherine Harry, of 8, Bryn Rd., Neath, Glam.

Remembered with honour
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Re: S S Carl - sank July 1918
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 18 December 08 12:11 GMT (UK) »
That's very kind of you both - thank you!

Our relative's father remembered answering the door when he was about four years of age - to someone bearing the news of his eldest brother's death.

Although the family has a picture of Emlyn, they never really knew the details of how and where he was lost.  Now they do.

I might do a spot more searching tonight to see if I can find a picture of the Carl but I am more than content with what's been located so far.  I'm especially chuffed every time I boast to a "newbie" how great Rootschat is - and you come up trumps.

Gold stars all round!

Kind regards, Arranroots  ;)
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: S S Carl - sank July 1918
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 18 December 08 16:16 GMT (UK) »
SS WEYBRIDGE

O.N.98156
2,483 grt
Built 1890  Raylton, Dixon & Co, Middlesbrough (Yard Nr 323)
For Temperley SS Co, London
1906 Sold  A. Lanfranco, Montevideo; Renamed SANTOS
1917 Sold  D/S A/S Kalundborg (V. Henckel), Kalundborg, Denmark;
Renamed CARL
1918 Owner became D/S A/S Orion (C. Jensen), Copenhagen
7th July1918 Torpedoed and sunk in position 49.20N : 09.40W by U-70 on voyage Aguilas to Heysham with iron ore.

http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~treevecwll/tempwey.htm

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Re: S S Carl - sank July 1918
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 18 December 08 16:40 GMT (UK) »

Woohoo clever Kyt !!!!!!

This is the closest I could get ...... wonder if this is the same one ?? ( some smashing old bikes on here too !! )

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I shall add this pic of the Ship's Bell of the Vessel,  S.S. Weybridge a Trading Ship Vessel owned locally, I obtained this in the start of the 80's, on a stopover Trip from Dubai to Pakistan renewing my UAE VISA, my wife Janet & I paid for the item and had doubts about it reaching our home at Dubai, a great surprise when a couple of chaps turned up at our home & unloaded our Bell & some other ship artifacts from a rickety handcart after a Dhow voyage. S.S. Weybridge was dismantled at Gadani Beach, 40 miles from Karachi

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Erect no gravestone .... let the Rose every year bloom for his sake ! Rilke Sonnets to Orpheus, I
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